procedure or the process of, defend the numbers, why should we be at these levels? here's the other piece as it relates to hagel. we don't know how long that confirmation process is going to take. and so, again, this might be the president simply saying let's bring him onboard because i want to see what his thoughts are, as well. i go back to the most basic fundamental thing here. we can say decision in weeks, tame ti take time in months, we are dealing with human beings with families, wives, children. the president should take as much time as possible, they might be there for a while. the last thing we want is a rush decision. >> there's another way to look at it, when you're delaying laying out a strategy, that poses dangers for our military presence and for the afghan people. i think that, i understand where roland is coming from, but i think there are dangers to not having a clear strategy, as well. it's a tradeoff. >> let me ask you about something important here.